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I think Christian might have assaulted Crystal and began tossing her aside in the grave noted. She saw her murderer, Dave and/or Christian, and he or they took Dale as hostage to view the crime as it took place. Since the murderer(s) are closely associated with Ego Shovel, maybe Dale and Crystal are integral to the foundation of the Millenium or something, but Dave is not willing to acknowledge it fully to the public for sake of public discrimination.

Response: Thanks for the thoughts, interesting idea regarding a Millennium connection.

You have a delemma. A real Who-Dun-It. You have circumstantial evidence that may point towards the Taylors, but no physical or direct evidence. And they may not have had anything to do with the murders.
Have the Taylors been polygraphed to satisify your own mind? I am also interested in the insurance policies, if they covered all three children or just two and when they were originated.
Dale's actions before he died were consistant with someone very stressed and under a lot of pressure from somewhere. Moreso then the expectations of his parents. have you looked at an outside source for this pressure, eg sports wagers, etc.
Who-Dun-Its are tough to solve but their death was definately caused by someone who knew one or both of them. If you can eliminate everyone except the family, you are up against a brick wall. Time to get dirty, get your wires, rattle some cages, and turn one against the other; all within the law, of course.

CyberSleutH

Response: The Taylor's have not agreed to submit to polygraph tests. We can't force them to do so. There are insurance policies for all three of the Taylor children. The policies are not recent each being taken out over 8 years ago. Dale was reportedly very stressed over the idea of losing his sister as his skating partner. Reports from his coaches and those who knew him indicate he was counting on making a significant amount of money and developing his career from his skating base.

Does the police have recovered Dale's jacket?

Response: Yes, the jacket and one murder weapon were found on the 12th by Josh "Tip" Tatum. Preliminary testing indicates that blood on the jacket is that of Crystal Taylor.

You have created a very interesting site. I have a only a few questions that I am sure you've already considered. Your investigation thus far seems to point more toward Shane more then anyone else. Is there any physical evidence to link or exclude him? eg: Dna from attacker under Crystals or Dales fingernails(PCR/STR), Dna from whoever moved Crystal (after she was killed)on her clothes from cells sloughed off their hands by the weave of the fabric, passive, transfer or foreign bleeding on her clothes from an attacker who may have injured themself in the frenzie, or transfer staining on Dales clothes from pushing and prodding. Was there any evidence at the scene to support the coroners theory Dale was shot at the scene such as lead shot, wadding, shot collar or cup, etc. this would not only give creedance to her theory but help id or eliminate various suspect shotguns and ammunition. Was Shanes car searched for soil samples consistant with originating from the scene of the burial.

Response: So far there is no physical evidence to link Shane to the murders. The most compelling fact is that he was the last known to see them alive. Drug testing results from the diversion program tend to support his story about going to the Dickerson location on that day. See summary report one. DNA results are not back yet. The soil and ballistics lab test results will be posted. The shotgun is believed to be a .12 gauge. The search of the Taylor vehicles did not turn up any obvious evidence soil or otherwise.

I just remembered something.The swiss army knife, found in the mud near the crates-I think- should yeild old nail filings identifiable via DNA testing. i believe this knife belonged to one of the killers. The man who wore the blue jacket, dropped it and didn't have time to search for it. I think he was tall, over 5'11", short military style cut hair-color salt/pepper, wore black combat boots and jeans. I hope this additional info helps more than it confuses. Good luck in solving the case.

Response: Thanks.

I don't trust the father figure here. He seems to have had an obssessive hold and control over his family, especially his daughter. I believe he was very frusterated at his daughter's independant thoughts of pursuing school instead of her skating career. His control is very evident in the diary; the girl only held onto the skating out of fear and hope of pleasing the family. If Shane was involved, he was only a pawn-not responsible. I would pursue more in depth questoning with the mother, try to break past the barrier of her husbands control.
The killers, were a group with connection to the cult. It is my belief that an older white male was the ring leader-older than the kids who were present. i would say, all males between the ages of 15 and 23, with the exception of the much older male. The crime occured in a backlot, and the victims were buried by two youths. One of the killers was very hyped about the killing, and wore the victim's blue skate jacket when they got in the getaway car. As the two youths were let to bury the two victims, the other three men in the car sped away, and when passing over a bridge, they tossed out a black bag, and several other items. This was an improvisation, a means to spread out the evidence to confuse investigators.
About Shane, he got in a fight with his siblings, and dropped them off before the bus stop, not at it. He may have been coerced by his father to drop them at a certain place. As for his socializing with the cult members, they are solely interested him for $$$. He smokes dope to escape his turmoil of emotions, and just wants to delay going home before he has to. He has a need for belonging, thus his interest in the cult.
It is very possible that the father of the victims arranged and payed for this in advance, and SEARCH for witnesses to his meeting with the older white male cult member, at a bar most likely outside the immediate vicinity of their community. Check a shady dark wood bar, no upscale joints. Perhaps there is a older lady bartender that could help you out.
Also, search inside the swiss army knife for physical evidence. I believe it belonged to one of the killers. There may be sufficient old nail filings to identify the owner by use of DNA testing. I am talking of the swiss army knife that had no casing, was found near the crates in mud?Just a thought that sticks out.
I believe the man that wore the blue skate jacket while leaving the scene owns the knife , and lost it, didn't have time to go hunting for it. i'm seeing a man with short, military style haircut, color salt/pepper hair. Hope this helps more than it confuses. Good luck.

Response: Very interesting thoughts here. We did not find a swiss army knife on the scene. Several belonging to Jim and Shane Taylor were seized in a search of the home. These have been analyzed. The knife believed to be the murder weapon has been recovered along with the jacket and sent for testing. Both appear to have belonged to Dale Taylor. Further test results will be posted.

In reveiwing all the evidence, I feel that Dale is definatly involved in the murder of Crystal.I don't think that Jim is even though he was undoubtedly molesting her.Shane is completly innocent.Mom needs help.I feel that once they were dropped off at the bus stop, Dale had someone he knows real well waiting around back, once there, Crystal annouced her plans to leave the team and persue her other options, in knowing this,Dale had already planned on killing her, he had Christian waiting in a barrowed car, possibly his new girlfriends, At this point Christian rounded the corner and stapped Crystal in the back, at this she spun around, and started defending herself, this is when Dale grapped her from behind, enter the wound on his hand, at this point the murder continued, after all was said and done at the bus stop, they loaded her into the barrowed car and drove to the cemetary.At hte cemetary, the grave had already been opened, Dale and Christian and dropped the body of Crystal into it and Dale jumped in to cove the body and possibly look for the plain tickets and money, at this point Christian, in an effort to keep his homosexual relationship with Dale a secret from his new girl friend, shot and killed Dale and filled in the grave.Then drove out to the creek to get rid of the luggage and use the water from the creek to clean out the car.Just a theory
Thanks
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Response: Thanks for the theory.

Sometimes if I see a picture of a missing person or something similar to this case I see visions. When I seen the picture of the two from this case I seen a river or a lake. Please check areas of water around 2 miles of where the luggage was found.

Response: The luggage was found in Hurricane Creek. The creek is generally a shallow creek, however, there have been a few periods of rain that have swollen the creek. The area was thoroughly searched. Thanks for the tip.

Oh Sir...Detectve Nelson..Hi, its me again, colombo.
Do you have a moment, detective nelson? it'll just
take a minute of your time.. just one question thats
all..You don't mind answering just one quick question do you, sir? Oh thank you very much, sir, you're
very generous with your time...I appreciate that,
detective nelson.

Anyway, whats bothering me, sir, is this...and I'm
gonna go back to the kopaneko connection...It still
bothers me that Mr. kopaneko was so precise about the brand of sneakers that the kid who was running was wearing...He said the kid was wearing rebok sneakrs. Now, I know, detective nelson, that you believe that Mr. Kopaneko got the sneaker brand from the missing peson's bulletin, but i still think there's something more there...It might be nothing, sr, but, then again there might be something.....there's always something, sir...ain't that the truth... and those "somethings" really bother me...anyway, sir, Mr. kopaneko said he saw something else that night that bothers me, and I'm sure you can help me with this...He said it was about 4 in the morning and it was dark and he was too far away to see the person's face, yet he DID SEE that there was MUD on the face..so here is what I'd like to know, detective nelson: Mr. Kopaneko said it was dark, but How dark?.Was it dawn? And, what time was sunrise? What were the weather condtions that morning at 4am? was it cloudy? clear? was the moon out? and, if so, sir, was it a full moon? If you could get me the weather report from that morning at 4 am, it would be very helpful, sir, very helpful indeed...I have a strong hunch that kopaneko just "might be" invloved in this...and its all those little "might be's" that you always gotta check out. A lot of crimes have been solved by just a "might be"....and you can quote me on that, sir....but i don't have to tell that to you, sir.

Well, detective nelson, thank you for your time...I won't keep you any longer, sir, its always a pleasure...you have a good day,

Oh by the way, detective nelson, that reminds me, sir, there is just one more thing...Mr. kopaneko also stated that he was too far away to see the running teen's face....Can you tell me though, sir, ebout how far away was he from the runner? 50 feet? 100 feet? 100 yards? just generally speaking, it doesn't have to be exact, but if you can get that informaton for me, along with the weather report, sir, it would be very helpful...

Oh, yes, that reminds me, sir...I almost forgot something else... detective nelson, there is another thing, sir, that I've been wondering about... how was Mr. kapaneko's vision? I notice he is 45...men sometimes begin developing minor eye disorders when they get over 40...I know that for a fact, sir....I'm 46 and i've been wearing these darn glasses for about 2 years now.....So, sir, i was just wondering, did Mr.kopaneko wear glasses? or, did he have perfect vision? Just wondering...another loose end/

Well, detective nelson, thank you again for your time.. its always a plasaure, sir.....always a pleasure....you have a good day now....colombo

Sorry for any typos, sir, but its very late and my wife had me out at the bar tonight...that wife of mine, sir, i tell you....she's 43 and still can party with the best of them...but me? Give me a bottle of beer and a football game and I'm happy, but the wife? Well, what can i say? She's in a class by herself...Class "A"... But Im sure you understand that... thank you, detective nelson ... you have a good day.

Response: Nice Columbo presentation. The weather that morning was crisp, light overcast and there was a moon, well before sunrise. Mr. Kapaneko has stated that he followed the person for about 1/2 a block watching him around the corner of Ross street from 18th. It might have been possible to view whether the individual in question looked dirty, but to identify it as specifically as Mr. Kapaneko did with a reference to mud is a stretch. Estimated distance at approx. range of 50 to 100 feet. Mr. Kapaneko does have reading bifocals. We have not found any associations with Mr. Kapaneko that lead us to suspect his involvement, however, that has not been ruled out.

Many questions yet remain:
1. Did they drive directly to the bus stop?
2. After they argued in the car, did they get out of the car and their brother leave them behind with someone else that they knew (hence a second car and the one the witness saw peel out.)?
3. Obviously, Chrystal was killed behind the BBQ eatery and hidden by the boxes, but what happened to Dale and where did he go at that time?
4. Why were two weapons used? Did Dale kill his own sister and then subsequently killed himself by another?
5. Was Dale at the cemetary at the same time that his sister was being buried? Was he forced to bury her and then shot himself? The shooter didn't take time to thoroughly bury him as was Chrystal due to the fact that the shot might have been heard if he was killed at the cemetary and he/she didn't want to be caught there.
6. The cut on Dale's hand was consistant with a defensive wound like that of his sisters, but why only one wound?
7. What did the entomology reports indicate?
8. Chrystal's diary was interesting. She was obviously in fear of either being physically or sexually abused. Though the coroner indicated that she was possibly sexually active or had suffered vaginal sexual abuse in the past, her diary implicated her father as being responsible for one or the other. Her "fetal" position is indicative of fear and regressing to a secure emotional state of mind. He father pinning her arms back may explain an uncontrolled temper and overbearing (control freek?). There is no indication of animosity between siblings other than "normal" rivalry and competitiveness.
The use of a knife as a weapon is very personal. Several stab wounds indicate anger and possibly rage (such as the Brown and Goldberg homicides). It had to come from someone who was vengeful. The use of the shotgun is more impersonal even though it was at a close range. Since it was from behind, it may have been unexpected. It's still too early to be certain, but I don't believe that the parents were involved in their children's demise. There isn't enough of a motive to want them dead.
9. The luggage was found 15 miles away. They were obviously transported by a vehicle of sorts. Is the location where they were found near or in the direction of the cult ranch?
The mud, etc., found on the luggage is not really significant unless they floated down from somewhere else. It only serves to confirm that they were tossed in the water with the exception of the missing $1,000. [email protected]

Response: 1) An argument occurred between Shane and his siblings that caused him to stop the car at a closed Burger King on the way. 2) The statement is that Shane dropped them off in front of the Big Star, we have nothing to prove or disprove that, but do believe that Crystal was murdered behind the shopping center. We do not know where Dale was specifically between the time of his sister's murder and the cemetery. 4) entomology reports are consistent with the locations and suggest that Crystal Taylor was not immediately buried the estimation is several hours of exposure. 5) Agreed, the knife attack is indicative of both a personal crime and one of rage. 5) The location where the luggage was found is in the opposite direction from the Dickerson ranch location. A vehicle would have been necessary to move the luggage to that location. The traveler's checks were recovered apparently undisturbed. Good observations and questions.

well well well..... it would seem an interesting enough crime to try and solve, but one problem... information!! :) At this point it is too early to make any educated decisions... but we are working on it, and will return soon :)
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Response: Check back as new information comes to light.

I have 2 guestions 1)was the time of determined,and 2)Where any finger prints found useful or otherwise

Response: Time of death maybe? The coroner determined that both Crystal and Dale Taylor died within the 24 hour period after they were last seen. Results of some of the fingerprint testing in the case can be found in the forensics report from the state crime lab. We are expecting more reports.

I think Crystal Taylor told Dale she wasn't going to skate any more.Which made Dale so mad that he started stabbing her.Crystal grabbed a gun,and started to shoot him.and they both killed each other.I just don't know where the gun fits in.

Response: Thanks for the thoughts.

I think that the brother killed the sister with the skate but was promised something by one of the instructors, who, after the fact, killed the brother. The brother rer-dug the grave. That is why his nails were dirt encrusted. The instructor then shot the brother from a kneeling or sitting position behind the brother due to the angle. They were all in it for the $ but the $ got the best of them.

Response: Crystal Taylor's stab wounds were definitely caused by a knife. Dale was shot from above and behind. Thanks for the theory.

Does either Tucker Baines or Bill Kapaneko have any history
of sexual abuse or assaultive behavior? Can we get a
biographical sketch of both?

The access road to to Hwy 7 goes past Eastgate Shopping
Center, where is Turner Center in relationship to Eastgate?

Kristi Dawes and Christian Chambers both go to the University of Mississippi. Do they know each other?
Christian is a computer major, does he know or associate
with Dave Woolworth or Ego Shovel? Does Kristi associate
with Dave Woolworth or Ego Shovel?

Does Christian associate with Shane? They have a common
interest in music.

Response: Neither Baines or Kapaneko have a history of such behavior. See bio on Bill Kapaneko for background. Turner Center is located on the campus of the University of Mississippi, several miles to the west. Kristi Dawes and Christian Chambers each state they have never met. Neither Chambers or Dawes is involved with Ego Shovel to our knowledge. Christian and Shane know each other both through music and because of the friendship between Dale and Christian, however, they have not produced any music together. 

How far from the Burger King is it to the cemetery?
How far from the cemetery to the Taylor's house?
Is the blade of a swiss army knife long enough to have created the
wounds, especially the posterior one of Crystal?
What type of car does Shane drive? Mr. Taylor? Do any of Cyrstal
or Dale's friends drive a dark 2 door hatchback?

Where is S. 18th street is relationship to the Burger King and to
the cemetery? Where is Ross street? Have you requestioned
Bill Kapancko? At 4 am would it be possible to have dug a
grave already (the teenager was covered in dirt) What was Shane
wearing to drive to the shuttle stop? Mr. Kapaneko's testimony
is too detailed and too accurate for a fast moving runner.
I am particularily bothered that he was so specific about the
tennis shoe brand. Has Mr. Kapaneko ever done business
with Mr. Taylor, been a client?

Where is the public telephone that the unidentified caller who
called in the burial site tip at in relationship to the pizza parlor,
Taylors, McDonald's, ect.

I am bothered by the lack of coins found on Dale. He had ones,
was there change in his bedroom? Were any coins found in
Shane's car, any at the Dixie Creek BBQ crate scene?

Did Mrs. Taylor notice any clothes missing from her husband's
wardrobe or from Shane's wardrobe? Whoever moved Cyrstal's
body would be bloody and they would dispose of them.

Were the travelers checks found in the luggage?
Was Dale's jacket found in the luggage?
Thank you.

Response: We will post a map of relative locations and distances to help visualize the relationship of crime scenes to other locations in the case. Mr. Kapaneko has not been a client of Mr. Taylor. The knife blade in the stabbing of Crystal Taylor would need to be at least 3.5 inches long. A hunting or sport version of a swiss army knife might do it. The telephone at Abner's is near the square. No coins found, no missing clothing from the Taylor's. The traveler's checks were found in the luggage undisturbed, the jacket was found near Toby Tubby Creek between McLarty Road and S. 18th Street by Josh Tatum.

I think bill kapaneko, the pizza guy who saw the running teen, is mixed up in all this somehow. I have a feeling that he and the kid's father could have been involved in a business deal in the past that may have ended with bad blood between them. Perhaps jim taylor didn't help him to get back on his feet after kapaneko had his heart attack, and kapaneko was getting revenge. His story just doesn't make sense, because he says it was too dark to see a face, yet he could see the brand of sneaker the kid was wearing. He also describes pretty much what dale was wearing that morning, meaning kapaneko was probably a lot closer to the scene of the crime than he is admitting. Maybe when we have more to work with the kapaneko connection will become clearer.

Just a thought.....Colombo ....Oh yes, and, just one more thing.....Detective Nelson...sir... can you tell us what kind of car does kapaneko drive?

Response: Mr. Kapaneko did have more detail than we think he actually witnessed. As previously stated, likely this is due to the media coverage of the case. Mr. Kapaneko drives a 1990 Ford Taurus.

I think that her dad and dale Planed to kill crystal but after dale killed crystall dad killed dale so he would get
more insurance money Why would he get dresed then go to bed?
I think her mom is in on it to the thing about being drunk is a cover up
motives
1.Dale was jealous of crystall because she was a better skater (he all but says this in her journal entries with all the fights they had)
2.dad was always given her weird looks thats why I think he was in on it our knows who is.
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Response: There is no obvious need for the insurance money in the Taylor finances. We've heard that Crystal was the stronger skater of the two. Thanks for your thoughts. 

who owns that car. and was the father having sex with his daughter

Response: We're investigating both. Check the cross reference for key individuals in the case, the vehicles they own and their alibi for the time of the murder.

Bryan at: [email protected]
Just looking for a response to my comments. I'll have more theories when I hear from the Detectives I will appreicate all responses. Thank You

Response: Keep checking, we are answering at least weekly.

Can someone please tell me how i get to the chats about this case?? Thank you
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Response: Go to AOL Keyword: crime scene, click on Interrogation, then on the Enter Chat Room Now button for guest chats. The conference room opens 10 minutes before a scheduled guest. For open chat, click on Interrogation, then on Just the Facts Chat button, then on Enter Chat Room Now for non guest chats. The AOL message board also has chat summaries, schedules and links.

Hmmm....Tucker Baines out jogging with his dog....fairly secluded area.....no one else around....Dog discovers crucial evidence... Change the name to Ben Archer and you've got the Purity Knight case! LOL!
LA

Response: Many times evidence is discovered by citizens going about their lives. Fortunately this time it wasn't a buried body.

How do they know that Tucker baines didn't have the bag at his home, where the dog got hold of it and messed up his plan.He had to come up with another story to lead them to the other things. In reality,he still could have used the same story. Maybe the dog improved it.

Response: Good thinking, however, the bag had evidence of the same molds found on the others at Hurricane Creek showing it had been there a while.

Man, when are we going to have something else to work with?
It's slow. Maybe some new cases could be put on and take off the solved ones..Thanks. I'm tired of reading the same ole stuff with no new developements. Just let me at em and I might get some info out of them...angel

Response: The Taylor case remains unsolved, updates are at least weekly every Monday. Check back for new developments.

I would really like to know if this is for real or not, because it seems you all have an awful lot of murders in your small community.

I don't think Shane had anything to do with it. It's obvios why he lied about when he returned home,he's on a diversion program. He did not know at the time of his initial interview that his siblings had been murdered.

I think Dale murdered Crystal for a number of reasons: 1. she was a better skater and he was nothing without her and she clearly wanted to choose her own way in life 2. jealous of relationship betweeen crystal and Dad,no matter how perverse it was 3. he was probably abusive to her as well, either sexually or physically, we know he was verbally abusive.

Scenario:

Dale stabs crystal after fighting with her and her threatening to call it off. Dale hides body until he can call Dad to come help him out. Dad doesn't want it to come out about his relationship with crystal so after making Dale dig grave, shots him and buries him as well. Mom is always drinking so she has no clue when anybody came home. Why would Dad get dressed then go back to bed? Doesn't make sense.

Just my thoughts, but I still want to know if this is for real!!

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Response: Check Reality Check here for details on Crime Scene. Thanks for the theories.

I had lost interest in crime scene the last couple of months. After reading the latest update you have gained my interest again. Good job on the maps and evidence. Thanks, for bringing crime scene back to the standards of the Purity Knight case. I hope this one has as many twist and turns, but has a better ending than Purity's case..
CDough1292

Response: Thanks for the compliments. Glad to have your interest, more information will be provided as it develops. Check back.

Hmmm, I hadnt really been considering Tucker Baines a suspect, but since others seem to, I have created a possible scenario involving him.

We already know he runs randomly. Well, it is possible that this day he happened to be running in area of mall. He happened to witness Dale killing his sister, or Dale blurted it out to him. He saw a great story and wanted to be a part of it, even add to it. So possibly he got involved with Dale, helping him bury Crystal, but then he turned on Dale. What a story! It sounds a little farfetched, but it is a possibility.

However, I believe that Dale killed his sister, called Christian for help, and for some reason or other Christian killed Dale. Maybe Christian was in love with Crystal, who knows. Maybe he and Dale were gay, as some people think. I believe Dale killed Crystal and Christian killed Dale. Christian was the one driving the small "black" car the witness saw (though in fact, his car is grey.)

Response: Tucker Baines checks out. Agree that the Chambers vehicle is a possibility, we are working on that.

I go along with the Dale murdered Crystal/Dad murdered Dale theories.
As far as the running teen at 4am, I believe that was the father.
After all, he would be fit and maybe he dressed in Dale's clothes...maybe they were the same size. Maybe he wanted to dress up like a kid so as not to arouse suspicion in the dark??
If I wore my daughter's Adidas T-shirt and trackpants and put on running shoes then from a distance people might assume I was a teenager, not a 40-plus mother.
Also think the mother in this case was well out of it because she was drinking to annhilate the pain of the sexual abuse scenario...and the father probably slept in another room so his wife would not know if he was asleep or not. (The whole family being in denial and cover-up mode, this latest is just another twist in the tale). Think the father was also running short of cash and wanted to collect on insurance.
Have fun Det Nelson!
The cheeky one
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Response: Thanks for the theories, interesting idea on substitute identity.

The case is getting more interesting!! It is clear from the diary Crystal was molested. At this time it is not clear if it was done by just Mr. Taylor or also by Dale. I believe Dale may have been molested by his father also and thought it was ok for him to molest crystal. I feel Crystal was finally fed up with it and decided after the argument in the car to get away from it. If this happened..1) dale would no longer have a career in skating, 2) the world would find out that dale was molesting and was molested 3) the father would be found out. I think it is very likely that Dale killed his sister. After doing so i think he called his father or somehow got in contact with his father and told him everything. I feel he told his dad that if he did not help him hide his sisters murder that he would tell on his father. This prompted the father to agree to help him and once they decided to bury the sister in the cemetary the father killed dale there. The father was angry that Dale killed Crystal, not only ending the molestation, but also ending the career the father dreamed of. It is also likely that Dale was a homosexual and maybe molested his sister to feel more "manly" and this also angered the father. After the father killed and buried Dale and went home...realizing Shane wasn't home yet had the perfect scapegoat. And if the nother knew that the father left he may have threatened to kill her and/or her only living child..."i lost two babies i don't want to loose Shane too" I don't think Shane had anything to do with this crime, nor do i think the cult had anything to do with it.
There are still more questions to be answered though. Such as the pizza guy?? I can not understand how he could possibly see dirt on the kid's face and what color clothes and sneakers he had on but not what color hair or any other info?? Seems funny to me. Also the black car......how could the passenger hear the car peeling away from such a distance? why didn't anyone else see or hear this car? Why doesn't someone help that woolworth guy? Geez he really seems to need it. What else was written in Crystals diary? Where the travellers checks found with the luggage recovered? Why would Bo be so interested in those skates? and why would a journalist not only touch evidence or possible eveidence, but bring it to his home and totally remove it from the scene? Does Shane know about the molestation going on with his dad and sister? Why won't anyone in the family take a lie detector test? Aside from the parents and Shane who knew what time the bus was leaving? Did woolworth know? Is he a really close friend of Shane's? Someone that Shane would confide deep family secrets to? I ask this because the person that called does seem to say a nutty kind of phrase that woolworth is famous for. But then again Shane, the father, or even christian could have made the call. Is there anyway to have any of the witnesses or suspects make a voice recording to match it with the voice on the phone? If so i would take a sample from, Shane, Christian, the dad,woolworth, and also the pizza guy. Maybe the pizza guy saw more than he is telling and is afraid to say. Thanx for listening. I think this is a great sight and look forward to getting more info about this case. Could this one also be related to the others?? Be interesting to see!!

Response: We are actively investigating the information in the diary. Subpoenas have been issued for medical records. We have no reason to believe that Dale was abused at this time. Mr. Kapaneko's descriptions were likely influenced by the media coverage on the case. The distance from the bus pull-out to the car was less than a block, it is possible to have heard it squeal tires. Interviews with other passengers show that they were either engaged in conversation or half asleep, you're right, no one else noticed the vehicle. The traveler's checks were recovered with the luggage, see the inventory of what was found. The Taylor's can't be forced to take lie detector tests. The schedule for the bus would be fairly easy for anyone to find out, not many knew the Taylor's would be on it, however. Voice analysis is being done with the tape. Glad you are finding the case interesting, check back.

I feel that Tucker Baines had something to do with it. He's clearly looking for a big story...even if he has to create one! Besides, his story just doesn't sound right. As a journalist, he knows better than to remove evidence from the scene. Investigators need to check him out more closely.

Response: Tucker Baines is enthusiastic, we agree, however he checks out.

the brother did it why maybe he was ashamed of what had been done by his father would shame hie mother and possibly the father is involved as well.the ciggerett but found could be linked to the father or son. through slavia or some similar test dna

Response: The cigarette butt found at the cemetery has been sent for testing. No links to the family yet.

i just read LINZ's analysis of this case..and i must say..i like THAT conclusion better than my own ! GOOD JOB LINZ... hope you're right !!!!!!
( you should go into the P.I. business !!!!!!!! ) ( need a partner ?? LOL )
teresa

Well, well, well..what have we here? Seems that Daddy Dearest was a child molester..not quite the " Leave It To Beaver" family that the initial interviews led us to believe..maybe Dale was a little jealous of his sister..maybe he resented her for being th e "chosen" one..although she didn't CHOOSE to be molested..that may explain his hostility towards her as indicated in her diary..
and as for dear old Dad.. he must have been angry with her for rejecting his sexual advances..
This is my guess.. Da le was a homosexual..and became jealous of his sister's relationship with the father..even though the relationship was one consisting of molestation..
so..Dad became angry with Crystal for rejecting him..and he knew that Dale was gay,and probably kne w of the resentment he felt towards Crystal for being the "favorite"..so..Dad played on Dale's feelings..and convinced him that they should kill the girl..and did so..but..low and behold.. Dad suddenly felt guilty for murdering her..and then, repulsed by his son's homosexuality, killed him too..
In this well planned scheme, Dad and Dale figured that the other brother would be the natural suspect in this crime..considering his case history...so they arranged the scenario..making the other brother the scapegoat...
Man.. I would think that with such a well-planned murder...Daddy would have swiped the diary and destroyed it..guess he isn't as smart as he thought..
TERESA...PRIVATE EYE...AVAILABLE FOR HIRE !!!!! LOL

Response: Thanks for your theories. We are actively investigating the information in Crystal's diary.

Does the Eastgate shopping center or the bank have any security cameras? If so, let's view them.

[email protected]

Response: Good thinking. The bank has security cameras. We have checked the cameras and there is nothing picked up from the parking lot area.

DETECTIVE;
I HAVE A FEW STATEMENTS TO TOSS ABOUT TO YOU.
IM SURE YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE THESE.BUT NEVER HURTS TO ASK.

(1) IS THIS DAVE PERSON FOR REAL EATS AND DRINKS FROM A TOXIC PIT! THIS FRUITCAKE NEEDS TO BE LOCKED UP FOR HIS OWN PROCETION,AS WELL AS HIS "FOLLOWERS".
WATCHING AND LISTING TO HIS INTERVIEW THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT SENT A RED FLAG UP TO ME.
(A) HE STARTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT SEEING SHANE AND CHANGED IN MIDSTREAM TO(2) HE DROVE UP EVERYONE WAS NECKED HAVING A GOOD TIME WE KICKED BACK AND SMOKED A JOINT.
HIS BODY LANGUAGE SEEMS TO BE SAYING(3) "CAREFUL HERE"AND HE SEEMS TO BE USING(4) HIS "FRUITCAKE SIDE TO WHAT EVER HE DOES NOT WANT TO ANSWERE.
HE CAN'T REMEMBER HIS AGE OR BIRTH YEAR! PLEASE..... AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS BECAUSE HE HAS SLEPT SINCE THEN!!!!HELLO.
MYSELF I THINK THIS DAVE IS PLAYING GAMES WITH YOU.
MAYBE SHANE TOSSED/SOMEONE TOSSED THE SHOTGUN INTO THE PIT.
IN THE INTERVIEW THERE WAS NO MENTION OF HIS LAWYER BEING PRESENT,BUT THEN HE STATES,SOMETHING TO THE FACT HIS LAWYER SAID TO TELL YOU THAT THE SHOVELS DOES NOT ENDORSE MURDER ECT,ECT,ECT.
AND KIDS DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME WE ARE PROFESSIONALS.
FOR SOMEONE WHO HAD SLEPT HE HAS GOOD RECALL OF THE NECKED PEOPLE AND THE POT,AND EVEN TO THE POINT OF MUD BEING ON SHANES SHOES.
DAVE HAVE/HAD/HAS A SS CARD???
DR.LIS NUMBER???
DAVE HAVE A CAR HE DROVE AWAY IN ONE.WHAT TYPE? POSSIBLE COLOR CHANGE???(SPRAY CAN)
wHERE DOES THIS DAVE LIVE SAID HE GONE TO GET SOME SNACKS(SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE)AND "WENT HOME.NOT BACK TO THE FARM OR BACK HOME.
THIS JOKER IS GOOD ENOUGHT TO BEAT A LIE DECTOR TEST.
I COULD NIT-PICK THIS JOKER APART TO WHERE HE WOULD RUN TO THE PIT AND JUMP IN AND HIDE FOREVER.
THE TIME 5;00 OR WHATEVER!
NEXT*************************************

CRYSTALS DIARY.

MOST PART WAS SHE WAS ALWAYS TO BLAME.
THE PART OF THE DIARY THAT POSTED A RED FLAG THE SIZE OF 15 FOOTBALL FIELD IS THE STATEMENT.HE WOULD GET IN AND PIN ME DOWN LIKE HE USTA DO . THIS BRINGS UP THE "OLD SCARING"
POSSIABLE CHILD MOLISTING.THISAND THE STATEMENT NO ONE WILL EVER TOUCH ME AGAIN BECAUSE OF HIM.
***************************************************
mOM IS NOW DRINKING WINE FOR LUNCH AND DINNER.
MOM HAS THREE GLASSES OF WINE.
THIS COULD BE A RED FLAG OR IT COULD JUST BE STRESS.
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NOW I LIKE THIS ONE. "ALMOST RED FLAGS"

ASSISTANT PROFESSOR
(a)JURNALISM
(b)BROADCAST REPORTING
(c)CAMERAS

ABSENT MINDED PROFESSOR, IS MORE LIKE IT.
HE KNOWS BETTER THAN TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM A POSSIABLE CRIME SCENE.
I WANT TO BUY THIS UNTRAINED DOG, HES GOOD.
WE COULD USE BO ON OUR SEARCH AND RESCUSE TEAM.
AND NOT EVEN BE OUT THE EXPENSE OF TRANING HIM.
THE ABSENT MINDED PROFFESOR NEEDS TO RECHECK HIS TIME.
SEEMS TO ME HES OFF ABOUT 30 MINS OR SO.
IE CALLING BO
BO NOT RESPONDING
STILL NOT RESPONDING
MR.BAINES GO'ES DOWN A LITTLE WAYS AND SEE BO;S TAIL WAGGING
NOTE ID HE COULD SEE BO'S TAIL WAGGING HE MUST HAVE SEEN THE OBJUCT WAS A CASE/BOX OF A TYPE. SO HE GETS NOSIE AND GOES ON DOWN AND LOW AND BEHOLD BO HAS FOUND THE SKATES.
DID BO KNOW THIS SMELL FROM THE PAST??? I WORK AROUND SEVERAL DOGS AND UNLESS THEY HAVE HAD A SMELL OF THAT OBJECT OR PERSON(S) THE DO NOT CHEW A HOLE IN IT AND STAY WITH IT. THERES SOMETHING FISHIE HERE AND ITS NOT THE SKATES NOR CASE.
AFTER LOOKING AROUND MR BAINES SEE WHAT APPEARS TO BE A SUITCASE NEXT TO THE PILLING OF THE BRIDGE,AT FIRST HE SEEM TO BE SAYING IT WAS UNDER WATER.BUT IT WAS NEXT TO THE PILLING OF THE BRIDGE. (SOME MORE FISH)
HE TAKES THE SKATE CASE AND RUNS HOME WITH SKATE CASE AND BO ON A LEASH..nOTE IF BO WAS THAT INTERESTED IN THE CASE TO START WITH IM SURE HE WAS JUST AS INTERESTED RUNNING HOME WITH IT.AND HIS MASTER CARRING IT.(MORE FISH)
OK TIME FOR SOME MORE REREADING AND HOT COFFEE. THANKS FOR LISTING DECTV. NELSON.
LADYBLUETHUNDER

Response: 1) We doubt Dave Woolworth or Ego Shovel are ingesting toxic waste, toxic drugs maybe. 2) We are investigating the diary information. 3) Tucker Baines may have used less than the best judgement in returning home with the skate bag, however, he had already touched it and so had his dog, Bo. As far as Mr. Baines knows, Bo is not a trained scent dog. Thanks for the comments.

I know people are probably going to think that I am a complete idiot, but would someone please help me out here? I am new to the Crimescene and I was just wondering if all these cases are in fact "fact" or "fiction"? I wish I could figure this stuff out on my own, but like I said, I am new to this stuf. So if someone would please e-mail me and tell me what the hell is going on, I would greatly appreciate it. my e-mail address is

[email protected]

Thank you, I guess. I just hope that someone comes forward and helps me out a little, because I hate being confused, don't you????

Response: Read more information on the reality of Crime Scene cases here at Reality Check. Hope you will help us on this case.

ok..sister gets it with a blade at the dixie place. But she gets it by the pizza dude..that was goin to make pizza.. yeah.. and then Dale is forced to carry sister to the grave. Mr. Pizza pulls a shotgun from his car, (that he mightve used to transport both in to the cemetary)... and makes Dale dig it... then shoots him.

The Pizza dudes car should be inspected for any traces of blood..and note the color and makeof his car.

And lets convict Dad based on the evidence in the diary for child abuse..and let him spend 200 years with bubba...Dont drop the soap!

Response: Mr. Kapaneko is not considered a suspect. We are investigating the information from Crystal Taylor's diary. Check back for more information.

1. How could the owner of a pizza shop identify Reebok shoes in the dark? He should remember something else like the boy's hair color,etc
2. Does Christian know Shane well? Both play music and Sometimes Christian goes to studio, so they might me good friends.

My opinion:
Like many people I feel Dale killed Crystal. Even her father abused her I don't think he killed her. But I hope you get evidence of abuse and put him in jail. I'm sure her mother was aware of (and denied) what was going on. Let's say Dale killed Crystal. But according to the blood pattern from his clothes he didn't carry her to the grave. someone else was with Dale. He didn't have many friend, only Christian? Please show the photo of his car to the witness. You should dig more about Christian because he has a nerve of a killer. The murderer of Dale could be anyone. My guess is the person who made a phonecall to police.

Response: It is possible that the degree of detail that Mr. Kapaneko provided was influenced by news reports of the missing duo which included a description of the clothing they were wearing. Christian and Shane do not know each other well, they know each other. Thanks for the suggestions.

Okay, so Crystal was being molested by her father. Thats horrible, sickening, etc, etc.... But does that mean he killed her and/or Dale? Lets not jump to conclusions until we get some more information!

Response: Correct, it does not necessarily identify a murderer. We are investigating this new information. Check back for more details.

There are some very interesting comments on this page,
visit the crimescene forum:

http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=crimescene

And i'll try to get the right info for you asap
:)
Mitch T

Response: Thanks Mitch.

Regarding the previous post.......Who is Shawn? Do you mean their brother, Shane??

Response: That's what we think.

Well, I think Dale chased Crystal to the back of Dixie Bar-b-q and stabbed her while Shawn was still there.Shawn took Dale and Crystals body, to the graveyard. Shawn made Dale dig the grave and the dirt being packed tighter may suggest that dale was in the grave packing it down. He may have been on his knees covering her, Shawn killed Dale from just above him as Dale was bent over,thus, no blood on his shoes or clothes. Shawn knew that if Dale was found out, that his dads past would come out in court. I think that while the bus was there, that they waited, hoping not to be noticed, and left after the bus pulled out to go bury the body. Shawn didn't arrive at Ego Shovel until later than they say since they were guessing at the time. Do you really want to take Dave's word for the time? He did say that Shawn had mud on his shoes. We can't be sure he picked it up at Ego Shovel and the parents have no idea what time Shawn got home. i'd like to know the make of cars that they own.

Response: Neither of the Taylor family cars are dark, two door hatchbacks. We are looking for the vehicle seen by Kristi Dawes.

Hey Linz! You took the thoughts right out of my head on the matter.I'm real glad you wrote in ,it saves me from all that typing . thanks Bejo

It seems obvious to me that Daddy's close relationship with Crystal was sexual. Crystal strongly suggests, if not bluntly states, that she was molested by her father. She also says that Dale didn't care. In the fews months prior to their departure, it seems that Dad and Dale got very close, according to Crystal. Crystal also comments about her mother's drinking increasing, which also points to her mother knowing, but being in an alcoholic denial. It is also stated by more than one party in interviews that neither had time for relationships of the romantic nature. However, the coroner stated that Crystal was sexually active. VIA DADDY! I think Crystal's father was very pushy about their skating and Dale knew he was nothing without his sister. He also wasn't good in school, VIA Christian's admittance of doing his classwork. It seems Dale didn't really have any other avenue in life but skating. If Crystal left him, then he'd be nothing. Also, maybe Det. Nelson should ask Christian about a possible homosexual relationship with Dale. I mean, come on, two guys going to see Titanic together??? Dale threatened Crystal with death if he ever left him. So here's what happened.

After Shane argued with Dale and Crystal, mostly Crystal at the end, he felt bad and went out and smoked a joint with Dave to vent out his frustration. Then, we switch back to Dale and Crystal. After the fight, Crystal's thoughts of leaving Dale and going to college become vocal. Dale erupts in anger and kills Crystal. Not knowing what else to do, he calls dad, and tells him what has happened. Dad acts calm at first, and comes to where Dale has stashed Crystal's body. A few hours had passed after Crystal's death, according to the coroner, this suggesting that perhaps, Daddy had time to find a shotgun that couldn't be traced back to him. Acting calm for Dale, but really furious because he loved Crystal in a romantic way, he came to where Dale was. Dale was expecting Dad to help out, so he would've, at any time, turned his back because he trusted dad. I believe the cut on Dale's hand was from killing his sister. The blood in his shoes is from walking in her blood, perhaps pacing, to figure out what to do. Dad takes Dale to the Cemetary, and maybe the missing jacket is worn by Dale at this time, while he carries Crystal's lifeless body. They get to the grave, and Dad starts to berate Dale, and makes him dig the grave. While Dale's back is turned, Dad shoots Dale in the back of the head, and then buries him. Dad killed Dale with the rage of a jilted lover, and perhaps Christian was called also and Dad was upset at the revelation of Dale's homosexuality also. Dad feels guilty and either A) makes the call to the station himself, or B) makes a very upset Christian call. anyone in that state would sound differently, but either way it would explain why Mommy knew the voice sounded familiar.

Thank you, thank you, no applause please. CASE SOLVED.

After all, wouldn't you want YOUR lover have a proper burial???

[email protected]

PS--- Shane had no involvement whatsoever.

Response: Thanks for the theory.

The clues seem to point towards Dale killing Crystal. Also, when he was seen running by the witness, he was dirty/covered with dirt. Seems as if he also did some of the grave work (dug a grave and/or buried Crystal there.) So, let's assume Dale killed Crystal.

We also have a witness report of a small car, possibly black. Well, interestingly enough, Dale's friend Christian has a small GREY car. Who else would Dale call to help cover up the murder? Certainly not his family. So, let's assume this was Christian's car and Dale called Christian after murdering his sister.

Now the question is who killed Dale. was it his friend Christian? Or another witness to these events. We'll soon find out.

As for the diary, I have to say I hope the father gets the next bullet. :)

Response: We are investigating further into the diary issues. Thanks for your comments.

How could Mr. Kapaneko identify a pair of black Reebok tennis shoes from a great distance in the semi-dark if he could not see the persons face clear enough to recongnize but knew that there was black smuges on his face?

Response: Agree that this level of detail may have been subconsciously filled in for Mr. Kapaneko from news reports of the missing duo. We do, however, believe that Mr. Kapaneko saw such an individual dressed similarly.

well let see if this murder is solved: the murder of crystal Taylor was commited behind the Dixie store she was stabbed to death by her brother Dale for 1. threatening to quit the skating pair and going off on her own. Dale murdered her on the spur of the moment after a fight in the car on the way to the bus stop with his swiss army knife. 2. Shane/Dale were aware of the abuse between Crystal & Jim. 3. Dale may have also been abused by Jim Taylor. 4. Dale was the teenager seen running from the scene. He fits the discription from the witness. The murder of Dale Taylor was commited by his brother Shane for the traveller checks and because of his jealousy of the 2.I feel he witnessed his sister being murdered by Dale and felt that this was the perfect opportunity. He fought with Dale & ended up shooting him. Shane then transported the 2 bodies in the trunk of his car to the graveyard (maybe Woolworth assisted him in this).
I also feel that the parents are aware of this and especially the mom she has "already lost 2 babies " she doesn't want loose anymore. jim Taylor is also aware of this iam sure he needs the 100,000 for legal fees his family will encounter

Response: We agree, the area behind the Dixie Creek BBQ, see search of Eastgate and diagrams, looks likely for the scene of Crystal's murder. We are investigating the new information that the diary brings to light. Shane's car was searched for forensic evidence and does not appear to have been used to transport the bodies. Thanks for the theories.

I think so far we can probably say that after Crystal and Dale got out of Shanes car, they either got in a fight with one another, or with someone else. This argument either sent Crystal running to the back of Dixie's or someone brought her there. At that point either Dale or someone else killed her. If Dale did it, he probably ran off to get help. If someone else did it, he probably ran to get away from them. After this point, I believe either Dale was caught and brought to the cemetary or found someone to help him and went there with them. If he did find help, who and why would that person then kill him? Dad-to keep it quiet, or because his son just ruined everything? Shane-It seems Shane and Crystal had a pretty decent relationship. Did he kill Dale because he killed his sister. One of the friends- Because they didn't want to be implicated? I think so far, pretty much everyone can be a suspect. More interviews are needed and I'd like to see a diagram of the mall, cemetary where they were buried, the houses of all parties and where the clothes were found to get an idea of how close/far they are from one another. Also, did anyone notice dad was VERY reluctant to take a lie detector test?
I also noticed a few times in the diary that Crystal didn't say a specific person she was afraid would molest her, she did say at one point that Dale wouldn't care if her dad etered her room. She also says at one point, "He said he thought we should all just come home and think about our mistakes. I really, really don't want to, but I hate him." She doesn't want to go home with her dad because she hates him? If you read that statement from Jan 13, it sounds like she wants to go home because she hates someone who was hurting her in Memphis. Could Dale have been molesting her also? When they are in Memphis with mom, maybe her drinking causes her not to watch Dale and Crystal as closely. Maybe Crystal feels safer at home because Shane watches out for her?
Liz [email protected]

Response: We'll look into posting a diagram. Interesting thoughts. Thanks for the theories.

Shane Taylor said that they fought in the car on the way to the bus stop. What if Crystal and Dale were still fighting when Shane drop them off? Crystal decided to quit then and there and took off running. Dale caught up with her behind the Dixi Creek BBQ and he killed her. We can assume that the teenager the Mr. Kapaneko saw running was Dale. Where was he running to? Home to dad? What kind of car does mom & dad drive? Dale knew about dad and Crystal. If Dale was scared enough he would tell about them and dad could not have that! So, Did dad kill Dale to keep the silence?
Please respond soon!

Response: It is possible, we are looking into the issues and questions raised by the diary. Thanks for the comments.

Mom is obviously in denial about the sexual abuse and other emotional problems going on leading to her aperantly escalating drinking. Extended family interviews should be done to find out any further information about Mr. Taylor's "touching problems" and any background history on Mrs. Taylor's drinking tendancies. Also interviews with some of Mr. Taylors pupils at the ice rink may shed light on if he has problems with touching young people in general, or just his own.

I still think dads pervy tendancies and the social pressures of fame and reactions of his schoolmates have driven Dale into a repressed homosexual orientation. The Quentin Crisp quote in his only acknowledged friends condo, while thematically appropriate, is interesting from this perspective as well. The diary certainly paints Dale as being motivated soley by money and as not all that commited to his craft. Interviews with past coaches should be done to support this contention to help establish the correctness of the overall sense of things as represented in the diary.

This case seems to be developing nicely, I hope it doesn't get abruptly killed off (if you will pardon the pun...) like the Woodley case before it is brought to a satisfying conclusion...

Response: The diary information is being investigated. Check back for more details. Interesting theories. What additional information are you looking for on the Woodley case?

hi there me again: i think you should re-interview Sandra Taylor again 1.if she did not have anything to do with the actual murders then she is covering up for her son &/or husband. 2. obviously she couldn't complete her interview when she was asked "if she had anything to do with it". The diary that was recovered seems to be helping solve this murder. Therory could Crystal been killed first and Dale
knew because she threatened to start skating solo. then during the heat of the murder Dale got nervous/anxious that would account for the defence marks on his hands. I still believe that someone very close to these kids killed them
i.e. mom/dad/shane knew

Response: Thanks for the theory.

A few thoughts about the obvious incestous situation between Jim and Crystal Taylor..
Crystal writes in her Diary, entered 01/01/98, one of her resolutions being that she was going to get a boyfriend. Did Crystals father know about this? Perhaps he became insanously jealous because of this? Perhaps Jim found Crystals diary, and read about it?

Andy
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Response: We are investigating these questions and more in light of finding the diary. Check back for more details as they become available.

About how far into this investigation are we(months, weeks)? (new here)

Response: Dale and Crystal Taylor were declared missing on 2/5, they were discovered in St. Peter's Cemetery on 2/19. We are still in the midst of an active investigation. Check back for updated information on the case.

Wow ! It has been about a year and a half since I have been to this site. The top investigation was of Valerie Wilson. (back when we thought that these were real cases) :) Spent many nighttime hours "investigating". Anyways, great job and it is good to see that there are so many participants.

Response: Nice to have you back. Thanks for the comments.

Laura P's Observations of the week:

1) Okay, from what is written in Crystal's diary, she was sexually abused by her father. That has to make him a suspect in the murder, and even if he is cleared, can the creep still be prosecuted for molesting his daughter even though she is now dead?

2) Another observation from the diary of Crystal Taylor: Dale treated her badly, and threatened her on occasion. In fact, Crystal seemed to feel much more afraid of Dale than she ever would of Shane. Maybe she was right to be...

3) The witness who saw the teenager running described a young man wearing a white t-shirt, jeans, and black Reeboks. What was Dale Taylor wearing that night? A white t-shirt, jeans and black Reeboks. The witness's account was not only accurate, but exact, down to the brand of the sneakers. When the kid was running like a demon down the street at around four in the morning. And even if this story was the biggest news the town had ever seen, a boy running down the street at night is not that much of a cause for alarm. Something about this story is suspicious, the witness had to have had a closer look at the boy, in order to know so much about what he was wearing, and to connect that seemingly innocent event with this murder case.

4) In the listing of evidence, nothing was mentioned about recovering the traveler's checks from the luggage. Were they missing, or just not included in the report? Any chance of tracing them, if they were cashed?

5) When oh when will Detective Nelson reply to the comments posted here?

LauraP

Response: The diary does open up new avenues of investigation, agreed. Mr. Kapaneko came forward in response to news articles asking for information on the case. While we believe his motives are good and he did see a youth running, it is possible that the detail of his description is influenced by news reports on the case. An inventory of items recovered with the luggage will be released shortly. A trace was placed on the traveler's checks and none have been cashed. Thanks for the comments.

Bryan at [email protected]

Well, after reading the new info there is some intresting things to think about. First, the diary is extremelly intersting, I think dad was having his way with Crystal a while ago and she resented him for it very strongly. Second, the guns at the house, neither is a shotgun olny a .22 and a 30-30 both shot slugs Dale had bird shot in his wound, in any case a shotgun needs to be found. Third, the car that was seen by the witness needs to be searched for per the description. Fourth, the person seen running by the witness sounds like Dale, what could he have been doing there? But all in all the new evidence really doesn't look too good for dad nor for Dale (eventhough he is dead) and let's not forget about Ego Shovel. Thanks I look forward to any response.

Response: Agree the diary is interesting and opens up new lines of investigation. We are actively looking for both the shotgun and the vehicle described by witness Kristi Dawes. It is possible that William Kapaneko's statement was influenced by news articles on the case, we can't be sure that it was Dale at this time. Thanks for the comments.

I have a couple of questions of the Taylor case.

1. If Dale was shot kneeling over,then how did his under clothes & socks get blood on them? Who's is it? Dales or Crystal's? or unknown?
2. Wheres the luggage? Why would the killer(s) leave the money in the wallets and take the luggage? The travelers checks were packed away(who would have known?).

Also,I think that both Crystal & Dale dug their own graves(?) They both had dirt encrusted under their nails.
I believe also that Dale was killed first,then Crystal. If it was the other way around Dale would have attcked the killer(s) while he (or she) was stabbing Crystal. Dale would more than likely been killed in an upright position. Even with two killers, Dale would have left some mark on them. Right?

Response: We expect lab results soon. The luggage was found in and around Hurricane Creek about 15 miles from Oxford by Tucker Baines. It is possible that Dale did try to stop the killer and that is why he has the cutting wound on his hand. Thanks for the comments.

I have couple of questions on the Taylor Case.
1.Who's blood was found on Dale's clothes? If he was shot kneeling over he more than likely would not get blood on his own socks.

2.Where is the luggage? Why would the killer(s) leave the money in their wallets but take their cloths. How would they know about the checks if they were packed away?

I think that Crystal and Dale dug their own graves. They both had dirt under their nails. Also, Dale was killed first. If not when Crystal was stabbed Dale would have tried to stop the killer and he would have been more than likely killed from the front and not in the back of the head.

Response: We expect lab results soon. The luggage was found in and around Hurricane Creek about 15 miles from Oxford by Tucker Baines. It is possible that Dale did try to stop the killer and that is why he has the cutting wound on his hand. Thanks for the comments.

Not that I think it's Shane who killed Crystal and Dale, but looking at a motive, I'd say that the $100,000 each insurance policies that Crystal and Dale had, would be enough to cover Shanes CD pressing and distribution..

Response: True, however, Shane was not the beneficiary on the policies. He has received his money. Thanks for the comments.

In my last message I wrote:
1. The coroners report states " shot from above and behind." The graph shows the entrance wound at the bottom of the back of the neck and exit above forhead. That would mean he was shot from below and behind. Which one is correct?
When the coroner was interviewed during the chats she stated that the opinion was he was shot while bending over. Why is that what is thought? Was the bullet found in the grave? What evidence is there that that is how he was shot?

Response: The coroner states it is the track of the wound that leads to this conclusion. Lab testing results expected soon. Check back.