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Sun Mar 29 18:05:37 PST 1998


Well, I just got done reading all these comments and I really liked mona's theory about ego shovel. I have to admit that I forgot all about ego shovel and she really got me thinking about them again. Even if its not what really happened, it was a pretty kewl plot. YOU GO GIRL. And I'd really like to thank you detective nelson and gang for such a fantastic site. I've been having a real lot of fun here. Debbi B

Response: Thanks for the comments.


Sun Mar 29 15:39:37 PST 1998

Det. Nelson,
What I want to know is where are the Doctor transcripts I have been waiting to see them and I beleive they were supposed to be here two weeks ago.
I also wanted to say I love this web sight it is very fun.
"R"

Response: The deadline for receipt of medical records was March 20. We received all the requested records and turned them over to a professional consultant for analysis as to the probability of abuse. Dr. Martin's report can be found in the Monday update.


Sat Mar 28 07:58:43 PST 1998

Ok, this is getting weird. First I believed that Dale killed his sister and either Christian or Shane killed him. But, now as I look back, a few things don't make sense. First, Dale's fingerprints from the index and birdie finger were found on the knife. How can you stab someone with only your first two fingers holding the knife? It seems like someone slipped the knife between his fingers and cut him on his finger while doing it. I have always thought that Christian had something to do with, but what? If he was planning to kill someone that night, then why would he even bother to sign online? Crystal's body was found in the fetal position. If Shane did it, then was someone doing something to his sister and he was trying to defend her? The thing about the money doesn't seem like a good motive because don't the other band members have parents they could borrow from too? The Taylors are being made to seem as though they are the only financial source for Shane's band. Is Christian dead too perhaps? I cannot begin to put two and two together so maybe I will read EVERYTHING and it will be clear as day as to what is going on. The clue is hidden somewhere and we are going to feel dumb when this case is solved. MzBhaver

Response: Fingerprint evidence requires that enough of a print exist to make a match. The fact that two prints were found on the knife is not enough to say that only those fingers were on the knife. It doesn't rule out Dale Taylor using the knife, but your theory is interesting. At this time we have no reason to believe that Chambers is dead. Thanks for the comments.


Sat Mar 28 00:44:50 PST 1998

Well shoot ! I thought i had it all figured out, but now it looks like maybe Ego Shovel is involved in yet another murder mystery. Let's see, first i thought it was Shane, then it looked more like Dale and Christian and NOW, I do believe that goofy Dave Woolworth is in this somehow.
Isnt it funny how he or Ego Shovel just happens to be around when all the investagations are going on? Let's
check and see if Dave has a computer or someone in the
"cult" or whatever that group is supposed to be called. And how about checking the Cooter Farm and see if our
buddy Christian is hiding behind a haystack somewhere!
He did'nt take a car so he is probably somewhere close,
or maybe even buried at the cooter farm by now.

Oh yeah...Det. Nelson, I'm saying this like a zombie.......
NEED MORE CLUES...NEED MORE CLUES
>> Me tia<<

Response: Dave Woolworth has access to several computers. What do you think is the connection? The Cooter Farm has been sold and is occupied by unrelated family. There is some good information in this Monday's update.


Fri Mar 27 23:57:02 PST 1998

ok....i have a question,when the arangements were set up for tania to meet christian..in the chatroom..why didnt you have police outside of chambers house jus in case he did confess to det nelson???.....when he admitted he was in trouble...mabey there should have been a surveilance team outside of his house..so when he went to do a runner..the cops could have got him.....oh and how come we get to see all the gory pics of all the other dead bodies and not these ones....jus curious thats all.....bye!

Response: The chat was set up in order to attempt to obtain sufficient additional information to apply for warrants. We did not anticipate getting much. A surveillance might have been a good idea.


Fri Mar 27 21:04:20 PST 1998


ifeel that the evidence is stacked against him

Response: Thanks for your comment.


Fri Mar 27 13:26:18 PST 1998

Just have a few questions...
1-under the interviews, you list the interview with Christian Chambers as "frind of Shane Taylors". My understanding is he and Shane did not "know" each other.
2-have you checked into the possibility that the "he" in Chrystal's diary entries could be Dale? (or at least a few of the "he" mentions)
3-is there any evidence of sexual abuse received by Dale from his father, a possibility of the jealous rages and mood swings of Dale's toward his sister.

thanks!!

Response: Thank you for pointing that out. It was an error and has been corrected. Shane Taylor and Christian Chambers were acquainted but they were not friends. We are examining all possibilities with respect to the diary entries. See Dr. Martin's analysis of medical records for more information on the abuse investigation. We should warn you that this report may be disturbing to some given the issue of sexual abuse it addresses.


Fri Mar 27 12:01:24 PST 1998

Could someone please let us know whats going on with The Hub, Crimescene, etc? I keep hearing rumors that CS is leaving along with the The Hub, and I hope thats not true!!
Also, if CS is staying, will we ever be having AOL chats again? Thank you!!!!!!
signed,
a panicked fan

Response:The Crime Scene is never going to close.

The Crime Scene has been updated weekly since January, 1995. It existed long before it's appearance on AOL. What doesn't exist anymore is the Hub--and the Crime Scene appeared on AOL via the Hub.

So, if you're on AOL, you can still get to us via the web at http://www.crimescene.com. Remember to put us on your favorite places list as a shortcut. Watch the site for info on AOL chats and internet chats too!


Thu Mar 26 21:13:32 PST 1998

HELP! I'm confused! I just read the chat transcript of Det. Nelson pretending to be TaniaKiss talking to Christian. Did this take place after Christian had already fled? If so, where do you suppose he was accessing a computer from?
Lisa
(LAllen031)

Response: The chat was set up for midnight on Friday the 20th. It appears to me that Chambers realized I was not Ms. Hotchkiss, logged off and made a hasty departure shortly after that. We know that the computer used was that at Chamber's condo.


Thu Mar 26 17:30:22 PST 1998

i believe christian did kill them both but i believe he had help!

Response: You may be right. We'd like to track down Chambers and hear his story.


Thu Mar 26 14:52:30 PST 1998

Is Christian being set up? When was he last seen? In what manner did he flee? and why did he leave his precious Beemer? Do we still have no idea who phoned in the initial tip? That's a big question there. If Christian called in the tip, because he wanted to be caught, why is he in flight? My sense is that he did it but there are a lot of loose ends here.

Response: Chambers was last seen at about 7:00 p.m. on March 20 by his neighbor, Mrs. Howard. We have no reports of anyone seeing him after that time. It is unknown what transportation Chambers may have used in flight at this time. We do not have a voice sample to analyze on the phone call. Chambers was scheduled to be re-interviewed and a sample obtained on March 19, however, he called to reschedule that interview.


Thu Mar 26 04:53:54 PST 1998

Hello,
Christian had 14 days in which to get rid of the evidence connecting him to the deaths. Why didn't he? Being a close friend to Dale he would have been aware that the amulet that Dale wore had his name on it, so why would he have left it behind if it ment so much to him that he took it in the first place? Too many questions that tend to lead you to believe he was set up to take the fall for the murders. Don't believe Christian ran, think he is either dead or being held somewhere for some unknown reason.
[email protected]

Response: When Mr. Chamber's condo was searched is was clear that a fast departure was made. It might be that he was unable to locate the pendant or did not think of it at that time. Your theory may be accurate, however, appearances were that Mr. Chambers left voluntarily.


Thu Mar 26 00:10:31 PST 1998

Add to my theory -
The luggage is dumped by Christian when he feels that the area has been searched - and will be unrecovered for a time.

Response: Interesting concept. Thanks for the addition.


Thu Mar 26 00:08:25 PST 1998

Okay - a bit of a stab in the dark (excuse the pun...) but a possible theory... (based on premise that Shane is a red herring, and the Father is not involved.)

Crystal decides to enlist Christians help in leaving her family. (he seems financially secure, and the type a person could lean on - in a co-dependent type of way.) She decides to do this en-route to skate trip - to give her some time to get clear of Oxford. Christian is to collect her from bus stop in the morning. (In the Honda, because Dale would recognise the BMW too easily) Crystal is to lose Dale at the bus - maybe go to the bathroom. Dale realises the plan beforehand and is furious. He decides to kill Crystal (he has planned it before) and has been to the cemetary to dig a grave. He goes to Christian's house and forces Christian to drive the car with Crystal in it. at knife point? to the park/river. (Dale appears to be the type to anger quickly, without rationality, and to be capable of violent/aggresive acts.) Here he kills Crystal. Christian cannot believe the action of his friend Dale. Dale forces Christian to drive Crystal's body to the cemetary, and trusts Dale to go (or sends Dale to go and get the shovels?) Dale dumps Crystal int he grave, realises his mistake and runs to Christian's (to get him, or get the shovels) Christian goes with Dale back to the grave site, where, as Dale is filling the grave, he shoots Dale in the back of the head - for the pain he has caused Christian or for his actions. Christian takes Dale's pendant - in memory of the friend who 'turned psycho'? - a momento (or the pendant is left over from womething else - may be irrelevant) Christian then flees anonymously to avoid implication for his part….

Response: Thanks for the theory. Mrs. Taylor states that the amulet was in Dale's possession when he left for the trip to Colorado.


Wed Mar 25 19:27:20 PST 1998

I think Shane Taylor killed both his brother and sister and set Christian Chambers up.

Response: Thanks for the comments.


Wed Mar 25 19:26:14 PST 1998

Though some things still aren't clear yet, I believe the following may closely resemble what occurred on that fateful morning:
Shane drops off his brother and sister and leaves after the argument. There are possibly others being dropped off also and no one really notices when Shane left (with the exception of the witness who heard a car peeling out). The argument continues between Dale and Chrystal. Dale lures Chrystal behind the Center and kills her in a rage. He hides her and the luggage under the boxes on the pallets and runs away from the scene towards either a phone or to Christian's condo (depending on distance etc). Dale spends some time at Christian's place and tells him what happens. Dale had discarded his jacket(with the knife in the pocket) in the field while he was fleeing the scene. Dale ends up at Christian's condo (hence the fingerprint on the door jamb or frame) and stays out of sight until darkness. Having convinced Christian to help him, they return to the scene in Christian's car, pick up Chrystal and throw her in the back (possibly explaining the fetal position) of the hatchback and also load up the luggage.
They go to the cemetary and dig the grave to bury Chrystal. Chrystal is placed in the grave and the soil packed down on top covering her for a couple feet. Dale is then shot from behind by Christian and buried on top and loosely covered. Christian realizes he has their luggage in his car and takes it home until he has a chance to dipose of it. He returns home, changes clothes and vehicles and flees taking the luggage with him and tosses it into the creek. He hides out waiting until things cool off. Christian was interrupted while he was online with his girlfriend by Dale's knock at the door which could explain his quick departure and distraction.
Several things still bother me: 1) did he bring the shotgun with him when he gave Dale a ride back to the crime scene? or 2) was it already in his car?; 3) Why did he kill Dale? Did he secretly like Chrystal? Did they have a relationship?; 4) Did the amulet end up under the pillow because it slipped off of Dale when lying down on the bed or
did Dale take it off and stash it there?; 5) Does Chrystal's diary mention anything about a relationship with Christian?
I don't believe that the Taylors had anything to do with their deaths despite the imiplications of possible sexual or physical abuse on Dad's part or the the family's dysfunction. Their foremost goal was to see Dale and Chrystal participate in skating competitions and had sacrificed to send them to training camp. Shane didn't seem to place too much emphasis on not getting the money promised. He seemed to accept it as just another setback, e.g. "Oh Well!".
I believe that the "defensive" wound on Dale's left hand was due to a struggle when he was stabbing Chrystal and she was fighting him. She may have initially taken the knife away from him in the struggle and after he recovered it, in anger, stabbed her several more times. We may never know that as there were (that we know of) witnesses. Keep me posted. Thanks. [email protected]

Response: We hope to get some of those answers from Mr. Chambers. Thanks for the theories.


Wed Mar 25 15:30:52 PST 1998

will last weeks chats be posted??

Response: They are posted.


Wed Mar 25 15:05:28 PST 1998

Hello,
Think that the latest evidence brings up a few more questions. If Christian is on the run why didn't he take one of his cars? It would have been easy to switch license plates or remove them to gain a little time? Can you be sure that Christian was the one online the last time? Not someone poseing as him. Could all the evidence have been planted in Christians condo? If so what has become of Christian? Can he be connected to Ego Shovel in any way on a positive basis? If not then to any other extreme cult? If Christian and Dale were not in close contact with each other it would be likely to assume that Christian would form a close relationship with someone new. He seems to have a dependent personality that requires close relationships with the people he knows. That would explain his mannerism towards his new neighbors. A person like that is easily used as a pawn before they realize what has occured and then they are in to deep to get out or so they think. Still want to read the rest of Crystal's diary.
[email protected]

Response: It is certain that the online connection in the chat session on March 21 was conducted from Chamber's condo and computer. It appears that he realized he was not speaking with Ms. Hotchkiss and left abruptly. It is not likely, though perhaps possible that evidence was planted. There is no known connection with Ego Shovel or cults. We have contacted all known associates and have not as yet located Mr. Chambers. Thanks for the comments.


Wed Mar 25 10:18:27 PST 1998

In my opinion, Chambers did commit the crime but not alone. I think that Shane Taylor or someone else was also involved.

Response: Thanks for the comments.


Wed Mar 25 09:50:05 PST 1998

First, numbers 3 & 5 aren't on map - duplicate numbers were used and are misleading.

What we can piece together so far based on map, witness interviews, and location of bodies, items, etc.

Dale stabs Crystal behind shopping center before bus arrives. (Why were they behind center?) Immediately runs to Christian's house (seen by witness) and ditches knife & jacket (found by Tatum) on way to Christians. Has Crystal's blood on him, which is why blood is found in Christian's condo. Christian gets off computer at this time and he & Dale get in hatchback and drive back to shopping center, waiting for bus to leave (seen by witness) so they can retrieve Crystal's body (and the luggage?)

This is where it gets murky. I would guess that the witness who followed the erratic hatchback witnessed it going to the cemetary the next night to bury the body, based on the witness' destination and the location of the cemetary. The question is where was the hatchback coming from? After Christian shoots Dale, he drives up to Hurricane Creek and throws over the skate bags.

Problem with theory: would there be room in the hatchback for two people, a dead body, and the luggage? And why was the hatchback out on old Taylor Road at 11 pm the next night?

Response: Try enlarging your browser screen when viewing the map. Some of the like numbers look the same (such as 3 and 8) but they aren't duplicates, if that doesn't work for you, click on the number and the correct identifying information will display. There would not be sufficient room in the hatchback for people and luggage. Thanks for the theories.


Wed Mar 25 08:50:21 PST 1998

Ok hi there all,
For some weird reason i belive that Christian is NOT responsible.
Although the evidence all points to him--his car may very well have been stolen, and returned by Dale and Crystals brother, shane. It is very possible no?
[email protected]
mitch t

Response: There was evidence that the car had been cleaned. No prints were found to implicate Shane. Thanks for the comments.


Wed Mar 25 02:29:36 PST 1998

Well, as far as I'm conserned, Dale Taylor killed his sister. That much is obvious. And Christian Chambers killed Dale Taylor. The theory that Dale killed himself is ridiculous to the extreme. Christian's gun was used to kill Dale. I believe that they WERE lovers, or that Christian would have liked them to become lovers. *Maybe when he was rejected he deicided to kill his friend?*

Let's just say this, there is no doubt in my mind what happened, and Dale killed his sister probably because she told him that she was not planning to continue skating.

There is no doubt in my mind that Christian Chambers killed Dale Taylor. My only question is why? It was a premeditated murder, or the gun would have been in Christians home, not in the middle of a field. OR was Dale killed at Christian's place, and did Christian go and bury both bodies at the same time???

So, like a previous poster, my only question is WHY??? And I have provided a theory (one that has been running around my mind since first reading of the relationship of these two guys.)

Love unrequited, or spurned.

Like someone else said - time will tell!
Sharon

Response: Thanks for the comments.


Tue Mar 24 22:27:07 PST 1998

aol tells me this site is no longer available, anyone else get this message? Is Mr taylor involved? Elisa

Response: We're still available on the web. We expect to be available via an AOL keyword again soon. Until then use your web browser to get to the Crime Scene cases at http://www.crimescene.com/


Tue Mar 24 20:52:39 PST 1998

I believe that Christian was involved in the cover-up, but not necessarily in the actual murder. I have one question.
Where do you think the hatchback was coming from when it was seen heading N on Old Taylor Road?
Thanks, bye-bye.

Response: That is a good question. The location where the Honda was seen on Old Taylor Road is out of the main radius of the crime scenes. We do not have definite confirmation that this was Chamber's vehicle, though all indications are that it was.


Tue Mar 24 19:14:10 PST 1998

I believe Dale killed his sister and asked Christian for help. The knife that was found has dale's fingerprints on it. I believe something else happened that night and Dale and Christian got into. And things took a unexpected turn. We'll see.

Response: Thanks for the comments.


Tue Mar 24 18:36:43 PST 1998

I think they are going to find christen dead .It's going to look like sucide, But I think he has been set up to take the fall.The problem is ,he doesn't seem to have a motive.Means...
Absolutely! Bejo

Response: We hope that Christian will come forward. We are actively looking for him. Thanks for the comments.


Tue Mar 24 16:28:13 PST 1998


Right now it looks like dale murdered crystal and hid her body behind the crates, then ran and burried the knife and jacket in the field, then bolted over to christian's house and told him what happened. It was proably at this point when Christian shut off his computer, abruptly logging out of the chat room, then drove with dale in the honda to the Mcdonalds, waited for the bus to leave, then peeled out to the Rt 7 access road and loaded crystal's body into the car.

I have an off the wall the theory on dale's death involving ego shovel. I think christian knew guys in ego shovel, because christian was into music and heavily into zen too, so i think he would be the kind of guy to hang out with ego shovel. Anyway, after loading crystal's body in the car, christian and dale were probably confused at what to do next, so at this point christian may have suggested that they go out to dickerson's farm and talk to ego shovel cause those guys might have an idea what to do. I'm starting to think that christian and dale hid out at dickerson's all day, and a member of ego shovel agreed to help them bury the body and get rid of the evidence that night. And that night in the cemetery, as dale is diggning in the grave to bury crystal, the ego shoveler shoots dale and christian witnessed it. Christian may be fearing for his life now.

Why Ego Shovel though? What would the motive be? Well, I think that older brother shane was gonna join ego shovel, so ego shovel figures that if both dale and crystal are dead, then the parents would be giving all their money to their only surviving son Shane for him to record his music. Ego shovel would be along for a free ride, getting to record and promote their music at the expense of the taylor's.

Just going off on a tangent here....mona

Response: Interesting ideas. Thanks for the theory.


Tue Mar 24 15:20:01 PST 1998

i dont think that he did do it. i have a problem with one pf the testimonies though how did mark jordan know who the dectective was talking about because he did not mention the victims names untill later in the interview. if he did i missed it.

Response: The posted interview with Mark Jordan occurred on March 2nd to follow up on Ms. Dawes statement regarding the dark car she witnessed. This was the second time Mr. Jordan, and other passengers were interviewed. The first interviews occurred on February 6.


Tue Mar 24 13:53:52 PST 1998

Well, I am going to stick to the Dale killed sister, called Christian for help (or ran to his house), and Christian killed Dale, bitter because Dale always requests help but is never thankful.

But, I thought of one other possibility. After killing his sister, Dale informed Christian that he did it and was going to kill himself. Dale kills self, Christian tries to save him but is too late. He buries bodies. I still would stick with the first theory.

Response: Thanks for the theories.


Tue Mar 24 11:53:07 PST 1998

I think in this day and age very few people that are implicated in murders did it alone. It's obvious through Christian's comments that he was involved, but I don't think he killed anyone. He could have tho. He does fit the profile of someone with a lot of inner conflicts. I still think that Dale killed Crystal and maybe then called Christian out of desperation. Maybe this is when Dad got involved. So many people were "asleep" when the ordeal took place.. Maybe Dad should be questioned further?

[email protected]

Response: Thanks for the comments. Mr. Taylor has been questioned on the diary contents. The Taylor family claims no knowledge.


Tue Mar 24 09:00:33 PST 1998

No, Christian did not do it;however, I think that he might know the who did do it. I think that the incidents that are
described it Crystal's diary need more looking into.

Response: We have been investigating the diary claims, medical records are being reviewed at this time. Thanks for the comments.


Tue Mar 24 07:36:36 PST 1998

Can you trace the internet access of Christian during his chat session with Det. Nelson. I also think that you should get a log from the ISPs of both Tania and Christian regarding the date of start of memberships, log of sign on's, chat room screen names and any other pertinent information. I'm still not convinced that Christian has done it. There is no clear motive behind his murdering the Taylors.

Response: We have confirmed that the chat session occurred from Christian's condo and computer using his screen name.


Tue Mar 24 05:30:34 PST 1998

I still think Dale killed Crystal in anger. I don't think Christian and Dale were Lovers. Only BEST FRIENDS! Neither murder was planned. Christian killed Dale out of remorse. He saw his very best and closet friend losing it at the grave site as they buried Crystal. Christian had always helped Dale no matter what. He probley thought that by killing Dale it yould put him at peace at what he had done to his sister, Crystal. Dale's necklace might have fallen off in Christian's car and Christian didn't find it till he got home. Not thinking clearly after what he had just done he stuffed it under his pillow.

Response: Thanks for the theory.


Mon Mar 23 23:05:25 PST 1998

Mr. Taylor set up Christian. He is too intelligent to have left all that evidence behind. Is online "friend" Tanya sure gave him up quick. Is she in it with Mr. Taylor? Janie

Response: We do not believe Ms. Hotchkiss is involved. Thanks for the comments.


Mon Mar 23 22:58:13 PST 1998

I think Mr. Taylor set up Christian. Christians chat friend sounds like a real Judas. Is she in league with Mr. Taylor? How did she just happen on this site? Pretty convenient. Hope Mr. Taylor hasn't already murdered Christian. Would Christain have left all that evidence around?
Elisa

Response: Good questions. We do not believe that Ms. Hotchkiss is involved in the murders. She has stated she found the Crime Scene site on the web several months ago. Thanks for the comments.


Mon Mar 23 18:12:43 PST 1998

Do Dave and Christain know each other? Seems that Dave and Christian could both be involved to some degree. Both have interest in local music. And is that Christian's hatchback parked in front of Dave's residence? I need to re- review the various interviews, etc. for some unanswered questions. Such as, if Dave was involved - to what extent since he supposedly was with Shane until 5:00? But, he does admit to stopping at the Chevron FoodMart that morning which is very close to Christian's house. Just thinking out loud - maybe something will ring a bell with someone else.

Response: Both Christian and David Woolworth have stated they do not know each other and Christian has denied any involvement in Ego Shovel. That is not Christian's car in front of Woolworth's apartments, but it does look similar. Given Christian's disappearance, these connections are getting another look.


Mon Mar 23 18:03:18 PST 1998

Okay... just a few random ideas. Christian was keeping Dale's necklace 'under his pillow' because he was in love with Dale. Did Dale know? Did Dale reciprocate? Did he reject Christian? The aggression used in Crystal's death indicates passion, rage and possibly revenge. While Dale's death can be viewed as a 'just shoot him & get it over with it' killing, I can also be viewed as a compassionate, mercy killing by someone who loved him and did not want him to suffer. Did Crystal find out about Dale and Christian? Did Daddy-dearest find out about Crystal seriously wanting to leave skating and flee his midnight advances? Did Daddy-dearest find out about Dale? He is in some way either directly or indirectly responsible for his childrens murders.
-Sara ([email protected])
P.S. When are you releasing the rest of the diary???

Response: We hope that the medical records review will help answer some of these questions. We may release more of the diary on Monday.


Mon Mar 23 16:30:39 PST 1998

It's not clear to me from the Kapaneko interview about the direction in which the youth was seen running...north or south - towards Eastgate or away from it in the direction of Christian's house.
thanks
cheeky1

Response: Mr. Kapaneko observed the running youth running south on South 18th St. toward the intersection with Ross Avenue.


Mon Mar 23 15:54:29 PST 1998

just a theory.. From the way the girl was killed vs. the guy, the rage seems to be aimed more towards the female. As for the incise wound on the male, indicates he may have been alive when the female victim was killed, and may have tried to help her.

Was there burn around the entrance wound? was it a contact wound?

Response: The shotgun wound was not a contact wound. The estimated distance of the shot was between 3 and 4 feet.


Mon Mar 23 14:40:09 PST 1998

What church does christian belong to?

Response: The Chambers family are members of St. Andrews United Methodist church in Oxford. Christian is known to attend irregularly.


Mon Mar 23 14:25:04 PST 1998

This may seem to be a long shot, but i have 3 questions

1. Fingerprints on the knife in the taylor case, was a match
found?

2. The relation ship between Dale taylor and his sister seemed a bit rocky, Possible murder-suicide?

3. Have you followed up on local cyber cafes where you can rent time on the web? Good place to log on and defeat definite trace. Suspect could be using such web sites. maybe some one remembers suspect.

Response: 1) Fingerprints on the knife belonged to Dale Taylor. 2) The coroner states that the location and angle of the gunshot wound make suicide a very remote, if not impossible event. The stab wound to the back could not have been self inflicted. 3) Thanks for the suggestion.


Mon Mar 23 14:08:50 PST 1998

I think Christian is now dead, I think he knew who the real killer was. I think incriminating evidence was planted at his house.

Response: Thanks for the theory. We have not located Chambers.


Mon Mar 23 12:55:08 PST 1998

after reading today's posts here's my new theory. dale stabbs crystal in a rage. he runs to christain's house for help. and on the way to christain's house he gets rid of the jacket and the knife. he is also seen by the witness on the way to christain's house. when he gets there christian is on the computer. this would explain why he got off so abruptly. he and christain fo back to the seen of the crime but the bus is there and they have to wait off in the distance. the are seen by the woman on the bus. after the bus leaves they go look at crystal's dead body. dale is most likely hesterical and chrsitian says he will help fix it. so they go bet christain's honda hatchback. he can't very well mess up his beamer can he. and i bet he grabs his showels and his shotgun then. they wrap up crystal's body and put it in the car. they put the bags in the car too. they drive out and get rid of the bags. that's when the car gets reported to the police because of the hatch being open and having an obvious load. they go to the cemetary and they dig up a new grave, and put crystal in it. while dale is putting dirt on crystal's body christian realizes that he has become an accesory to murder and decides to get rid of his only witness, not realizing that so many people have already seen him and dale. so he shots dale with the shotgun he brought just in case. he covers dale's body up and then goes home. he may have called the police himself, because he wanted to get caught, because i could not see him telling anyone what he did. now the taylors might be scum, especially nasty dad but they may really be innocent.

Response: Thanks for the theory, certainly seems to fit in with many of the facts.


Mon Mar 23 11:25:10 PST 1998

Can't you check christian's phone records to see if he got a phone call around that time?

Response: Phone records have been checked, there is no record of a call at that time. The summary reports on the investigation provide some of this information.


Mon Mar 23 09:19:47 PST 1998

I also believe that Dale killed Crystal, for many reasons. I'm still trying to figure out what exactly happened between Christian and Dale. I'm sickened by Jim Taylor and his weak wife. Ignorance is not always bliss, Mrs. Taylor.

Thanks for listening!

Response: Thanks for your comments.


Mon Mar 23 08:24:03 PST 1998

I thought we were going to see more of the diary??

Response: There is not much more. We may post another entry.


Mon Mar 23 06:26:11 PST 1998

I don't recall reading anything about Alan Philbert. Where can I read up on him?

Response: Alan Philbert reported a vehicle driving erratically on Old Taylor Road on 2/2.


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