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Monday, December 1, 1997 Guest: Robert Gilbert, Developer of Dickerson Business Park   Opening Remarks:   Good evening. I'd like to start off tonight by clearing my name of this whole mess. I had no idea about this dumping business. I am outraged by the whole affair! I feel like I've been victimized, and have a very hard time believing that Chambeau knew anything about this. I've been trying to get a hold of him for days now, but he's out of town so all I've been able to do is leave message after message! What makes me the most outraged over all this hooplah, is that I went into this partnership with the intent of developing a business park. I still want to do that! But with all this nonsense about the dumping, I may not even get to do this project! I have a lot of my time and money invested in this project, I stand to lose a lot if this continues. This has put a real strain on me. I mean, what if they put this on hold indefinitely and I never get to do the park? I'll be out of a lot of money here!   I'm sorry. I don't mean to be so rude. But this is very irritating for me. I can't help but be angry about this, especially when I had nothing to do with it. If you ask me, it's a conspiracy and everyone is in on it. I want another agency to look into these supposed findings that Oxford Green reported. I don't believe that their test results are valid, and I want someone else to test the soil. But I have to get a hold of Chambeau on that because he owns the land and he has to make the final decision on that. I've tried getting a hold of him, but unfortunately he's out of town. All, I've been able to do is leave message after message. Anyway, I'm sorry to have rambled like this, but I am very angry over the whole mess.   If I can answer questions now.   Question and Answer session:   Q: How come you didn't see the barrels on the property? A: Well, I don't own the property myself. Chambeau owns the property. I just want to develop on his land. I have plans for a business park in that locale. It wasn't like that when I first looked at the property, anyway. Aside, from that, I've had other projects I've been working on, so I hadn't been out there in a while. I didn't feel I needed to.   Q: How did you meet Chambeau and who introduced you to him? A: Chambeau owns a lot of the property out here, and he heard about a project I was working on developing. This business park I'm working on. We'd seen each other at some functions in town, and he heard about the plans through some people. So he approached me on it.   Q: What other projects did/do you share with Chambeau? A: Well, I am working on the Wal Mart project with him, but that was pretty much it at the moment.   Q: Did you approach A&A Detective Agency with your problem? A: No, I hadn't. I didn't know of any problems until the Oxford Green got involved, and they hired A&A. I haven't had anything to do with any of the investigations. I didn't even know about the dumping until recently.   Q: Does Chambeau own any of the following properties? Nite Kap, Moonlight Cafe, or Willards? A: I'm not really sure who owns those properties...he might.   Q: What typewriters might you have at home and in your office? A: I don't have a typewriter at home. I have an HP Pavillion. As for the office...I think we have a word processor, but I don't use it, my secretary does.   Q: Who is in charge of Oxford Green and what would they have to gain by polluting the project? A: I have a hunch that the person has it in for Chambeau, and wants to see our project destroyed. I'm not even sure Oxford Green was involved with the dumping...I think that possibly someone else did the dumping and called them in on it to check it out. I mean, they are just an environmental agency. I don't think they'd really have anything to gain. I think it's outside the agency. Some other land developer or owner who doesn't like Chambeau or something. But I think they did the dumping and then called in the Agency. The whole thing smells of conspiracy. I think people are being paid off, and I'm talking higher ups...like politicians and government employees. Something weird is going on here. I'm not even sure the test results that the Oxford Green came up with are even substantial. I want other people...outside people to come in and check this all out.   Q: Does it seem like someone was trying to prevent your obtaining the EIR? A: Yes! I have been putting up with delays for months now. That's why I've been doing smaller projects in my spare time. I've got a lot invested here, and every time I turn around they are delaying the Report. That's why I'm convinced that there are people being bought off...people in the local government seem to know more than they are saying about this whole mess.   Q: Who have you told of your suspicions? Do you think anybody could've been eavesdropping? A: I haven't told anyone really. I wanted to discuss it with Chambeau when all this came about. But I can't get a hold of him because he's out of town. I've been frantic over the whole thing. I've left like fifteen messages for him.   Q: What was the name of the environmental engineer who "up and quit", and where is he/she these days? A: There's a lawsuit pending and I can't really discuss the details on that.   Q: Are you aware that Chambeau owned property in Emelle Al that was also a toxic waste dump? A: No, I was not. That is something that I will have to discuss with him. This whole thing is a disaster and there is something fishy about the whole affair. I need to talk to him to clear up some things. I just wish he were in town to discuss this fiasco with.   Q: Was there conflict between you and Chambeau because you supported Lamar for Sheriff while he supported Mazza? A: Well, we had our political differences, but we never discussed it. I didn't even know that he was supporting Mazza. He and I have gotten along very well.   Q: Is Senator Ivey (backer of Mazza) connected with any committees having to do with haz mat disposal, maybe looking for a no-questions locale for dumping? A: I'm not really sure to be honest with you. But I'm sure with the way things have been going for A&A and Oxford Green you could end up with that answer in just a few days.   Q: How much money did you stand to loose and how much money did Chambeau have to gain if project failed? A: I have my accountants working on that right now, but with the way things are going I may just go under soon! <shaking head angrily> This is totally outrageous for me! The legal allegations are even worse than the money situation! I mean I think we've been had!!!!! The whole thing doesn't sit right! I didn't have ANYTHING do with this. NOTHING!   Q: How long has Chambeau been on vacation? A: Chambeau's been gone since before the holidays. I've been trying to get in touch with him since all of this Oxford Green information came out. I keep leaving messages, but I keep missing him. I expect to hear from him really soon! I'm sure he's just as angry over this whole disaster as I am. Although, to be honest, I think that he should've already gotten in touch with me. It's driving me crazy that he hasn't gotten back to me, and he's got money invested too. I know that I called him first thing when all this broke out, and he STILL hasn't gotten back to me.   Q: When you finally do get to talk to Chambeau, please...be a boyscout and secretly tape your conversations! A: I just might do that.   Q: Have you ever seen Hal Harberson; if so, in what context? A: No, I've never seen the man. Look, I'm stressing out really big here. I don't really like to come unglued like that. So, if you don't mind, if I just step out and take a breather, Mickey?   Mickey: Not at all. I think we can let you go for the night, Mr. Gilbert. Thank you for being here.   Announcement: Considering all the incoming reports on Mr. Chambeau, we are promoting TV spots on Macy's disappearance to be run over a 7 state area in locations where Chambeau may have property. The Tip Line will be expanded and we are adding staff to handle the expected incoming calls. We hope that Macy can be recovered. We are afraid that now that the Sheriff is no longer alive she might be less valuable to possible kidnappers, for whatever reason. Watch for more updates and any breaking news.