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- Witness Interview: Harold
Mazza
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- Mazza was interviewed Sunday afternoon at the
sheriff's department. Det. Nelson later contacted Art
Riboni, chair of the local Sons of Italy chapter, who
confirmed that a dinner had been held Saturday night and
that Mazza attended.
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Q = Deputy Terry Nelson
- A = Harold Mazza
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- Q: Mr. Mazza, where were you on the night of November
8?
- A: I was at a Sons of Italy dinner, at Maggioni's. It
ran pretty late.
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- Q: Can you estimate what time you got home?
- A: I guess it would have been 11 or so. I just got
home and went straight to bed.
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- Q: So you didn't hear about the sheriff's death
Saturday?
- A: No. I didn't know anything about it until you
called. I was pretty shocked.
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- Q: Shocked?
- A: Sure. It's a tragedy -I didn't expect him to drop
dead. He's done a lot for this county, in the past.
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- Q: Mr. Mazza, after the election you were calling for
justice to be served. You don't feel in any way
vindicated?
- A: No! Absolutely not. Look, I had to come out
punching in that race, I was definitely the underdog. The
playing field wasn't exactly equal. But I would never
wish him dead. He was a worthy opponent and I think we
recognized each other as such and respected each other as
such.
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- Q: What do you mean by the playing field not being
equal?
- A: I'm telling you something funny was going on. I
don't know how deep it went, but the sheriff and that
developer Bob Gilbert were sure in tight. I don't know if
he was giving the sheriff money or what. But it seemed to
me like Gilbert did an awful lot for the sheriff's
campaign, I wonder if we even know the half of it. Maybe
he bought some votes. Some people didn't even want to
talk to me, and they were all Gilbert's friends.
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- Q: Those are serious allegations.
- A: I know. And I know there's nothing on paper about
it. I've seen the records and Gilbert's only down for 50
dollars or so. But there's probably plenty of under the
table stuff, if you looked for it.
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- Q: So the suicide, do you think it was related to
these claims?
- A: I don't know. What he did, I'm sad to say it, is
pretty standard. I can't say I think it would weigh on
his conscience.
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- Q: Any other reasons you can think of for why he
might have killed himself?
- A: I think that anyone would break under that kind of
pressure - his daughter, and everything. I'm sad for
Chuck and for his family. You couldn't tell it during the
election, but Chuck and I respected each other away from
the whole election process. He was a good man at heart,
but he made some mistakes. Everyone does.
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- Q: Some of your supporters have approached county
officials and proposed that you take over Sheriff Lamar's
vacant office. How do you feel about that?
- A: I know about the law, and I have to follow the
law, of course, like anyone else, but that doesn't mean
I'm happy about it. I think it's a backdoor -- a way for
them to keep me out of the office by researching until
they found this old law that they could apply to the
situation.
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- Q: Do you think it's unjust?
- A: Like I said, I have to follow the law like
everyone else. It's not necessarily unjust, but it seems
sort of petty, especially if it turned out the election
had been rigged. At least I'd hope they'd call another
election soon. I think that would be the fairest standard
to apply to the situation. Leave it up to the voters.
They should have the final word, not a group of men in a
back room somewhere, deciding what's best for everyone
based on their own preferences.
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- Q: What does the future hold for you?
- A: Well, I can tell you right now that I'm going to
be running again for the office in the next election, and
I think I'll win this time. But right now I want to go
pay my condolences to Caroline Blanchard and the Lamar
family in their time of need. They're good people, and
they deserve that.
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- Q: Thank you, Mr. Mazza.
- A: You're welcome.
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